Mutilate new · Assassination
Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 13 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.
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WoW Forever Rogue Talents
Plan your WoW Forever Rogue talents across Assassination, Combat, Subtlety. Check preview changes, requirements and recorded ranks before sharing a build.
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Rogue talent trees
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Assassination
0 / 51 Improved Gouge Increases the duration of your Gouge ability by 0.5 sec.
Remorseless Attacks After killing a non-trivial enemy, gives you a 0% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Mutilate, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts.
Malice Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks and Poisons by 5%.
Ruthlessness Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a Combo Point to your target.
Murder Increases all damage dealt by 4% against Humanoid and Giant targets.
Improved Slice and Dice Increases the duration of your Slice and Dice ability by 15%.
Relentless Strikes Your finishing moves have a 0% chance per Combo Point to restore Energy.
Improved Expose Armor Reduces the Energy cost of your Expose Armor ability by 10, and refunds 2 Combo when cast with 5 Combo Points.
Lethality Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Mutilate, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities by 6%.
Vile Poisons Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 20% and gives your poisons an additional 40% chance to resist dispel effects.
Cold Blood Critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Eviscerate, or Mutilate increased by 100%.
Improved Poisons Increases the chance to apply Poisons to your target by 10%, and gives Poison applications a 50% chance to not consume a charge.
Vigor Increases your maximum Energy by 10.
Mutilate Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 13 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.
Improved Kidney Shot Enemies Stunned by your Kidney Shot ability take 10% increased damage from your poisons and attacks.
Seal Fate Your critical strikes from abilities that add Combo Points have a 0% chance to add an additional Combo Point.
Venom Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point: 9 seconds 2 points: 12 seconds 3 points: 15 seconds 4 points: 18 seconds 5 points: 21 seconds
Combat
0 / 51 Improved Eviscerate Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 7%.
Improved Sinister Strike Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5.
Lightning Reflexes Increases your Dodge chance by 5%.
Puncturing Wounds Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab by 10% and your Mutilate by 5%, and gives Backstab a 15% chance to add an additional Combo Point.
Deflection Increases your Parry chance by 1%.
Precision Improves your chance to hit by 1%.
Endurance Reduces the cooldown of your Sprint and Evasion abilities by 60%.
Riposte Disarmed.
Improved Sprint Gives a 100% chance to remove all movement impairing effects when you activate your Sprint ability.
Improved Kick Gives your Kick ability a 100% chance to Silence the target.
Flawless Execution Reduces the Energy cost of your Eviscerate ability by 10.
Dual Wield Specialization Increases the damage done by your off-hand weapon by 50%.
Blade Flurry Attack speed increased by 20%. Weapon attacks strike an additional nearby opponent.
Hack and Slash Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Daggers and Fist Weapons by 5%.
Weapon Expertise Reduces the chance for your attacks to be Dodged or Parried by 2%.
Aggression Increases the damage of your Sinister Strike, Backstab, and Eviscerate abilities by 2%.
Adrenaline Rush Energy regeneration increased by 100%.
Subtlety
0 / 51 Camouflage Reduces your speed penalty from your Stealth ability by 15% and reduces its cooldown by 6 sec.
Master of Deception Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 3 higher.
Opportunity Increases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Garrote, Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by 10%.
Setup Gives you a 0% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging an attack or fully resisting a spell.
Elusiveness Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 90 sec.
Dirty Tricks Reduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 25%.
Improved Ambush Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 45%.
Initiative Gives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.
Ghostly Strike Dodge chance increased by 15%.
Improved Distract Increases the radius of your Distract ability by 3 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 1 level lower.
Heightened Senses Increases your Stealth detection as if you were 3 higher and reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 6%.
Premeditation 2 additional Combo Points.
Serrated Blades Causes your attacks to ignore 9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 30%.
Dirty Deeds Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 20, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target.
Preparation When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.
Hemorrhage Taking increased Rupture damage from the caster.
Quietus Your Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 2% more damage against targets below 35% health.
Cutthroat Your Backstab has a 3% chance to cause your next Ambush within 10 sec to not require Stealth.
Thousand Cuts When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.
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CLASSIC DIFF
Rogue talent changes9 new · 30 changed · 1 moved
Compared against Classic Era
build 1.15.9.69722.
Venom new · Assassination
Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point: 9 seconds 2 points: 12 seconds 3 points: 15 seconds 4 points: 18 seconds 5 points: 21 seconds
Flawless Execution new · Combat
Reduces the Energy cost of your Eviscerate ability by 10.
Hack and Slash new · Combat
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Daggers and Fist Weapons by 5%.
Dirty Tricks new · Subtlety
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 25%.
Improved Distract new · Subtlety
Increases the radius of your Distract ability by 3 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 1 level lower.
Changed talents
Improved Gouge changed · Assassination
Increases the duration of your Gouge ability by 0.5 sec.
Remorseless Attacks changed · Assassination
After killing a non-trivial enemy, gives you a 0% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Mutilate, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts.
Malice changed · Assassination
Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks and Poisons by 5%.
Murder changed · Assassination
Increases all damage dealt by 4% against Humanoid and Giant targets.
Improved Expose Armor changed · Assassination
Reduces the Energy cost of your Expose Armor ability by 10, and refunds 2 Combo when cast with 5 Combo Points.
Lethality changed · Assassination
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Mutilate, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities by 6%.
+ 24 more changed Rogue talents in the beta data — every one is visible in the calculator above with its live text.
7 Classic Rogue talents did not make it into the Forever trees — the full list is on the class changes page, and each tree footer in the calculator notes what that tree lost.
QUESTIONS
Rogue talent FAQ
Rules, data provenance and what the Forever preview changes for your class. More on the Data Sources page.
How many talent points does a Rogue get in WoW Forever? +
Like every class: one point per level from 10, for 51 points at level 60. Tree tiers unlock at level 10 + 5 per row and need 5 points per row already spent in that tree.
What is new for Rogue in WoW Forever compared to Classic? +
The live beta trees carry 9 brand-new Rogue talents (Mutilate, Venom, Flawless Execution, Hack and Slash, …), 30 changed, 1 moved and 13 unchanged across your Assassination / Combat / Subtlety trees, plus 7 Classic talents retired from the trees. See the change list above for details.
Do Rogue talent rules change in WoW Forever? +
The framework is pure Classic: 51 points, tier gates at 5 points per row, prerequisites must be filled before points go in, and dependent talents block removal. This calculator enforces all of it.
Where does this Rogue talent data come from? +
Extracted from the WoW Forever beta client (build 1.60.1.70009), with the tree layout synced against the live beta trees, and diffed against Classic Era (build 1.15.9.69722). Values shown are rank-1 live values. Details and known gaps on the Data Sources page.
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